Well yeah, I heard about the BABScon incident
and it's a ton of total bullshit all around, as is a lot of the drama
involved in this fandom. In all honesty though, I'm trying to get away
from most of it and I don't care as much for it now as I used to, say,
back in 2011/2012. I still watch it and talk about it some within
dedicated Facebook groups and local friends, but that's about the extent
of it these days.
My sister got me into Avatar: The Last Airbender and I classify it
amongst my favorite TV shows, maybe even higher than MLP. But I think
outside of cartoons/boring film music/vidya gayms I'm mostly
uninteresting otherwise, esp. cause I work three jobs right now and
don't have a lot of spare time to put aside.
And I'm mostly trolling JiHad because frankly he deserves it.
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oh wait, that's not the response I'm supposed to give out, is it? Fine, I'll bite:
FUCK YOU TO FUCKING FUCK AXELROD TIREPENIS. I FIND YOUR MOTHER AND I GO
FUCK ANAL SEX HER. GO FUCK YOURSELF IN THE MEET THE ROBINSONS. THE ANTI
BRONY WILL DIE AND I WILL GO FIND YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU *ragequits and
logs off Gamingforce for the next three years*
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I can't prop comments when I'm on a proxy server. Damn it.
Okay Basil, it took me a very long time to
write this, so I hope you are willing to actually read it, because I
think it's important.
The birth of the “Pajama Boy” meme, part and parcel of the debate over
the government takeover of healthcare in the United States, underscored
an important trend in our nation. This trend was NOT the increasing
“juvenilizing” of the American male, a trend that has seen expanding
numbers of grown men return home to live with and leach off their
parents. Rather, it was the increased AWARENESS of the trend—a growing
understanding that “Pajama Boy” and his ilk represent a category of male
one will encounter in day-to-day life. But “pajama boy” is a feeler, a
tendril, a probing tentacle of a greater mass of cultural foolishness.
The nucleus of the cancer is found in the “brony” phenomenon (and
movements like it). The reason it is a problem is because it facilitates
the deconstruction of necessary social gender roles. Stated another
way, there are (or were) social rules for how men and women are to
behave. When men adhere to these rules, when they conduct themselves
according to these social guidelines, they enjoy more success overall.
They appear and behave as if they are worthy of respect, of treatment as
adult men, of female attention, of reproduction and families.
If they fail to conduct themselves according to these rules, which have
been established over centuries of social interaction, males become
“unworthy” in the minds of other adults and in the perception of
potential female companions. To be branded unworthy is a
self-fulfilling, self-perpetuating cycle of behavior, for once rejected
by the sphere of adults, adult work, adult tasks, and adult
responsibilities, the “juvenilized” male retreats into a world of
fantasy, play, and diversion. Cultural analogs can be found in the
“grass eaters” of Japan, to cite just one example. These are males who
have given up on female companionship, on productive work, and on adult
responsibility, not because (as they may or may not claim) they are
happier that way, but because, having forsaken adult rules of behavior
and conduct, they have found that no social community of adults (or
adult women) will tolerate them.
First Corinthians 13:11 reads, “When I was a child, I spoke and thought
and reasoned as a child. But when I became a man, I gave up childish
things.” It doesn’t matter if you are a Christian, an atheist, or an
agnostic; this verse is the centuries-old acknowledgment of a societal
norm that itself developed over centuries. Children grow into
adulthood. Adulthood requires a casting off a childish things and ways.
What characterizes children? They are impulsive. They are
irresponsible. They break the rules and then try to avoid the
consequences for their misbehavior. Left to their own devices, they will
not be productive. They do not or cannot support themselves. We accept
these traits as perfectly normal for childhood. A six-year-old who was
obsessed with the practical realities of starting a business or overly
concerned about questions of personal honor would be either a genius or a
psychopath. Adults do not expect children to behave according to adult
rules. The process of raising children is the process of introducing
them to grown-up responsibilities and rules of behavior on a gradual
basis, encouraging them to drop “childish things” and childish ways in
favor of responsibility, productivity, and maturity.
What characterizes a functional adult and, in this specific case, an
adult male (a man)? A man takes responsibility for himself, his
well-being, and his sustenance. He engages in productive work to his
own benefit and in support of his family (if he chooses to start one).
He understands that a man is judged socially by how well he keeps his
word and how consistently he meets his obligations—in other words, he
understands and operates according to personal honor. He is capable of
defending himself in a sometimes dangerous world and understands this
“warrior” function of the human male. He takes pride in himself and in
his possessions and in the upkeep of both. These qualities make him
“worthy” to the human female. When he displays these qualities he is
understood to be a worthwhile investment by the opposite sex. He enjoys
the corresponding attentions of women to the degree that he demonstrates
his value.
These are arguably subjective guidelines, but they are also readily
observable as cultural facts. This is how adulthood and childhood work
and compare. This is what one observes when one takes the time to
analyze either in the context of modern society and its evolution over
thousands of years. But to acknowledge these realities is also to
acknowledge a cultural blight growing within contemporary culture.
“Pajama Boy” is a waypost on that highway to pussified male hell. The
fast lane on that route to juvenile waste could be no better represented
than by the “brony” phenomenon. We will therefore refer specifically
to this particular tendril of cultural blight (while understanding that
many others exist).
It is not normal for a grown American male to celebrate, exult in, and
proudly promote a love of entertainment intended for little girls. There
may well be functioning adult men out there, particularly fathers, who
aren’t bothered by (and who may even be entertained, in passing)
watching programs like “My Little Pony.” A rational adult man does not
tell the world how much he loves My Little Pony, however. He does not
indulge in this kind of childish foolishness for two reasons. First,
this is entertainment very obviously intended for children and females,
geared toward female sensibilities, and to revel in it betrays a lack of
manliness on his part. Second, over-indulging in children’s
entertainment is a diversion that facilitates shirking adult
responsibility.
In other words, a brony is a wretched, immature male who engages
purposefully in behavior and entertainment that should have been left
behind when he transitioned from childhood to manhood. His devotion to a
children’s television show calls into question his ability to function
as an adult and to adopt and maintain adult responsibilities. All adults
are, wisely, suspicious of age-contemporaries who exhibit inordinately
immature personality traits. If you work in an office where the shirt
and tie are the norm, you don’t give big projects or bigger
responsibilities to the guy in the pink “Friendship is Magic” t-shirt.
If you are looking for an adult to babysit your children, you do not
select someone your children consider a playmate, who shares their
interests and dresses as they do. If you are a woman selecting a mate,
you do not choose a “man” who behaves and comports himself as an
overgrown child, an immature man-baby exulting in entertainments
appropriate to preteens and tweens.
A superb example of how this attitude affects one’s function as an adult
was recounted recently by Aja Romano in The Daily Dot. On 24 April,
2014, Romano reported on a disturbing incident at the Bay Area Brony
Spectacular Con, described as a fandom convention for the television
show, “My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic.” Staffers at a vendor table
for Sacramento’s “Sac Anime” reportedly struck up a friendship with an
11-year-old girl. When that girl reported that a grown man in a brony
t-shirt had tried to grab her and take her to his hotel room, the staff
of Sac Anime apparently allowed the girl to hide in their midst.
Supposedly the staffers felt they were “prepared to physically attack
the human trashheap [should he try] to [mess] with her”—as if a grown
man and would-be kidnapper would be at all dissuaded by the bared teeth
and ridiculous posturing of a group of anime fops who cater to a
customer base of stunted, sexually confused child-men. Worse, the staff
of Sac Anime never alerted security to the presence of a potential
sexual predator in their midst, apparently because they felt their
readiness to leap upon the brigand in question was sufficient to resolve
the situation.
This is a single example among many you’ll find wherever this type of
juvenilized mind congregates. This is the type of thinking that
children exhibit. An adult would alert security and the authorities
because an adult would understand the dangers. A grown, functioning man,
if alerted to the presence of the predator in question, would likely
attempt to apprehend that predator and hold him for the authorities, on
the idea that this is what grown men do to keep safe the public at
large. Children, by contrast, believe they and they alone are
sufficient to contain such a situation. Children misunderstand the
danger to the public and don’t bother to alert anyone else to what they
perceive as their localized drama. Children are more concerned with
telling the Internet about how brave they were in protecting their new
friend. They want the story and the credit that comes with telling it.
Children aren’t concerned with overarching issues affecting people in
general, because children are self-centered. We expect them to be
because that is a natural facet of their mental and emotional
development at that age. It is these qualities that must be discarded
as children mature.
The brony and countless other related indulgences—”furries” again spring
readily to mind—represent the arrested development, the derailed
maturation, of the American male. A male who embraces childish things,
who cannot adopt adult dress and behavior, is telling you he is not
ready or able to accept adult responsibilities. A population comprising
such incapable, weak-minded man-babies would collapse in short order.
As our own culture sags under the weight of these useless Pajama Boys,
it is no wonder, then, that our own foundations are beginning to show
serious cracks. The brony and his ilk are the horsemen of an adult
apocalypse. The brony’s rise presages the extinction of the rational,
responsible, grown-up men who once formed the backbone of our society.
I'm surprised Justin Bieber hasn't commented here yet. I'm guessing he'd
rather keep it to his Facebook and Twatter where I can't see it instead
of confronting me direct like he used to :') The Irish white hetero cis
scum douche pleb has the bukkake session with J.M. DeMatteis, Ben
Lesnick, Christopher McQuarrie, and Joe Kraemer three times a week where
he diddles all their weewees and he pulls over the uncircumcised peepee
skin on all of them and mass debates them all politically until they
cream out white rainbows and he sucks the semen out of all of them bcuz
dats how much he loves dem. Also I guess he felt the need to ragequit at
me with his throbbing boner on Film Score Monthly like a dozen times a
couple years back because I'm guessing he was too emotionally invested
in me and didn't want to defriend me on Facebook but he did so anyway
because I came out of the stable for watching the mel ell pee and he
hates that for some irrational reason so he projected his insecurity out
for everyone at film skor monthlies for peepol 2 c because he had the
gay man feelings for me and he interpreted my coming out as a breakup
letter (wtf) so he got angry at me like he got angry at Amanda forever
ago for breaking up with him because he wanted to sex her vajayjay and
grope her titties becuz he is the misogynyst gynecologist and he posts
about womens boobies on twitter constantly before he locked down his
account anyway like the white house during a government shutdown who
only cared for amanda cuz he wanted to sex her and fuck her and kiss her
and holy fucking jesus run on sentence batman
also whoever applied cool2.php to my account, that isn't gonna shut down my computer, sorry i had the very good giggle tho even tho it took forever to shut down firefox and reboot to get the Block Site add-on.
Somebody likes something I dislike? I don't care.
Somebody dislikes what I like? I don't care.
Somebody expresses an opinion contrary to my own? I don't care.
What I care about most definitely does not include other people's bullshit. I have found much better things to care about.
So Basil I know you posted this here to get
LeHah's attention and all but you know what would help even him to
understand whatever message you're trying to deliver? Some context.
Quotes wouldn't hurt either. References. Something! I can't tell in
some areas if you're having a conversation with yourself or quoting
someone else. It's just weird and gives a feeling of making little
sense.
I'm going to guess you're mad at him for not giving ponies a chance and
are hating on Star Wars for no reason other than he likes it. Yeah, by
and large most people like Star Wars. So does LeHah. There's a decent
amount of people who like ponies too. Heck, I know if you didn't say
"this is from MLP" and gave the music to someone to listen they might
enjoy it. Whatever. Why do you continue this hate boner? Love and
tolerate, man. The creed! THE CREED!
But seriously dude this wasn't a good read at all. I have no idea if
LeHah will understand it. I believe you've probably wasted your time.
I'd love to see a legitimate debate between you two but really it just
looks like you blathering at a wall incoherently about your gripes
splathered with some name dropping from your film music forum and LeHah
sitting back after walking by out of the blue and going "HMMMmmm...
hmmmm... nah."
Please try again. Or don't. You can just let it go. I dunno. Is that an option still? Or are you just too invested now?